Newest addition: 1978 Kenworth W900A Flatbed rollback truck.

Nice truck. These roll back trucks are truly the one truck that a guy can make money with. We have a single axle International with a roll back. People are always approaching me to haul stuff but I just do not have the time and here in BC you need insurance to haul other peoples stuff so I have to be careful. Can haul our stuff as well as anything for customers of our business, just can not haul for people who want us specifically for hauling.

We just repainted entire truck and rebuilt the deck. One thing I did do was mount a three valve hyd. lever set up on the frame of truck. I now have to hook hoses to winch with quick connects. Save a lot of hose and weight, my winch hoses use to get pinched and burst once in a while. Managed to shave off nearly 3000lbs and still have a strong deck.
 

LowBoy

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Nice truck. These roll back trucks are truly the one truck that a guy can make money with. We have a single axle International with a roll back. People are always approaching me to haul stuff but I just do not have the time and here in BC you need insurance to haul other peoples stuff so I have to be careful. Can haul our stuff as well as anything for customers of our business, just can not haul for people who want us specifically for hauling.

We just repainted entire truck and rebuilt the deck. One thing I did do was mount a three valve hyd. lever set up on the frame of truck. I now have to hook hoses to winch with quick connects. Save a lot of hose and weight, my winch hoses use to get pinched and burst once in a while. Managed to shave off nearly 3000lbs and still have a strong deck.
Thanks Lowbed driver, I'm finding it to be one of the best decisions I've made in buying older trucks. This one's been used several times since I got it for "productive things", rather than just for shows and bleeding money.

I'm going through similar trouble with this one with the winch lines myself. Originally, it had two very long hoses from the winch to the rear of the deck where the valve body is mounted. They slid in a tray about 10 feet (the length that the deck slides,) and laid on the ground, and you had to constantly watch them for pinching, catching on something. I had to re-plumb them due to a bursted hose, so I went with 1/2" pipe from winch all the way to the back of the deck by the hinge pins, then thought I could cheat and use 2 6' hoses from there. I was wrong. I ended up making up 2 12 footers, so I really didn't accomplish a thing other that changing the long runs of hose over to steel piping. I still have 2 hoses that lay on the ground as you slide back, and when I'm done I wrap them around the bumper and bungee them. It's an awful setup. I'm trying to figure out a way to get them normal again, like a new rollback.

All I see on the newer trucks is the winch hoses are TWICE the length as I have now, but folded over so they roll out flat, then they re-roll back over themselves. I say that's still a pain, because they will eventually wear at the bend, catch, blow, etc. and now you have a 24 footer rather than a 12 to change out.

Your quick connects are something I should think about. I have to look that over today. Getting toward winter here, so my projects are going to be postponed till warm weather. I thought about mounting a single valve up toward the front of the bed across from the winch so all I'd need is a couple of 4 foot hoses to feed that, but then you'll be 20+ feet away from the hook all the time. Not really feasible either. Quick connects may be my solution.
 
Just got around to hooking up the hoses for the winch. Nice set up ,works great, might be a pain if one uses the winch on a daily basis, for us it will work great. When I went that way, the tray and all sorts of other stuff could be cut off. This is where I saved a bit of weight as well as a lot less hoses required.. Not so important for you since you have a tandem, but on our single axle my net load increased quite a bit, ~3000 lbs .

Cheers L D
 

LowBoy

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Just got around to hooking up the hoses for the winch. Nice set up ,works great, might be a pain if one uses the winch on a daily basis, for us it will work great. When I went that way, the tray and all sorts of other stuff could be cut off. This is where I saved a bit of weight as well as a lot less hoses required.. Not so important for you since you have a tandem, but on our single axle my net load increased quite a bit, ~3000 lbs .

Cheers L D

I looked closer this morning at mine LD...the valve body is actually mounted fast to the frame on an extended pedestal out alongside the bed rail already. But I still think I should make up two quick connect hoses to simply hook up when winching, then unhook and store for next time like you have. I just learned of a website that offers wireless remote controls for just about anything and everything imaginable...that said, I could convert my winch to a remote control. Wouldn't that be the cat's meow then! That wire rope is a true PITA by myself to keep it reeling in properly on the spool. You need 8-10 ft. long arms to do it right.
 
Ya. I just carry 40ft of cable and let it reel on any way it wants. It does mess up a bit and then I just replace it. Do not use winch a lot so maybe a new cable every 12-18 months. Sure is handy when you need it.

My controls were on pedestal as well coming off of frame and then had rods going over to the other side for operation on either side of truck. Got rid of all that. Valve body is now behind cab, above tank and a few feet away from deck tilt cylinders as well as base end of slide cylinder. I now only have 1 long hose about 10ft that goes to the top of cylinder barrel (rod end). Also I can only run truck from drivers side , but that work sfor what we do.

Cheers L D
 

LowBoy

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Sounds like it works good. I have 75 feet of wire rope on mine...probably a bit more than I need, but I just got a snatch block recently so I can double up my pulling power if needed. Flip side of that is, it slows the speed by 1/2 as well. But what the heck, it's there so why not use it till it snaps.

I only have a single-sided valve setup too, no biggie to me. The winch is my biggest pain, I have to rig up a better free-wheel linkage so I can throw it in and out from the ground when I want to pull the cable. All in all, even with a few little quirks, this thing puts a smile on my face every time I use it, thinking about all the times I needed to have something hauled and couldn't get the guys out of their tree stands this time of year.
 
Ah the tree stand....would love to come down and get a pesky whitetail or two. Assume that is what the guys and gals are after in your neck of the woods.

Cheers LD
 

LowBoy

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Ah the tree stand....would love to come down and get a pesky whitetail or two. Assume that is what the guys and gals are after in your neck of the woods.

Cheers LD
That's it LD, everything ceases to operate around here until the last day of deer season. We've had several fires in the area over the years that could have been saved from total losses, had the entire FD not been hunting. If you need something during rifle season...you're going to have to wait to get it around here.
 

jumbo

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Ya. I just carry 40ft of cable and let it reel on any way it wants. It does mess up a bit and then I just replace it. Do not use winch a lot so maybe a new cable every 12-18 months. Sure is handy when you need it.

Since Samson “Blue Steel” rope came on the market as a replacement for wire on towers and swing yarders with decent results, (If a logger can’t break it or loose it, it can’t be broken or lost…) I have seen several drum lines on trucks replaced with this product. Size for size it matches steel. What the trucks are doing is keeping the drum line stored in a toolbox unless needed. Sunbelt Rentals has a short piece attached to the drum so all they need to do is shackle eye-to-eye and go at it. Lines last longer and are easier to handle with no jaggers to catch the unwary hand. It is weird to see 5/8 rope doing what 5/8 wire cable used to do.
 

LowBoy

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Ya. I just carry 40ft of cable and let it reel on any way it wants. It does mess up a bit and then I just replace it. Do not use winch a lot so maybe a new cable every 12-18 months. Sure is handy when you need it.

Since Samson “Blue Steel” rope came on the market as a replacement for wire on towers and swing yarders with decent results, (If a logger can’t break it or loose it, it can’t be broken or lost…) I have seen several drum lines on trucks replaced with this product. Size for size it matches steel. What the trucks are doing is keeping the drum line stored in a toolbox unless needed. Sunbelt Rentals has a short piece attached to the drum so all they need to do is shackle eye-to-eye and go at it. Lines last longer and are easier to handle with no jaggers to catch the unwary hand. It is weird to see 5/8 rope doing what 5/8 wire cable used to do.


You're saying that the Samson Blue Steel is actually a ROPE? Is it nylon or something else...? I'm curious to find out about that stuff...Thanks.
 

jumbo

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You're saying that the Samson Blue Steel is actually a ROPE? Is it nylon or something else...? I'm curious to find out about that stuff...Thanks.
Yes, rope. It is not nylon, there is no stretch in it.

http://www.samsonrope.com/Pages/Product.aspx?ProductID=872

The first time I saw it was two years ago on a swing yarder. It has been out longer than that, just never saw it before. It is a synthetic, probably kevlar mixed in, and it is amazing stuff.

Well, there is the web page, I cannot make the link work...
 
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LowBoy

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Yes, rope. It is not nylon, there is no stretch in it.

http://www.samsonrope.com/Pages/Product.aspx?ProductID=872[/URL]

The first time I saw it was two years ago on a swing yarder. It has been out longer than that, just never saw it before. It is a synthetic, probably kevlar mixed in, and it is amazing stuff.

Well, there is the web page, I cannot make the link work...


I just went to it and then found a distributor an hour from me here. Thanks for the info Jumbo...if that stuff is as tough as my 5/8" cable I have now is, then it's definitely a no-brainer to use that. No more slivers, sliced open hands, and most of all, no more "bird's nests" on the drum.

I have about 75 feet of cable on it now, and it's probably too much anyways. The drum is always too full and you have to watch every revolution if you don't want a snarl. Samson Rope would be a pleasure...lighter, etc.

Thanks again.
 
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