Some Holmes 750 action

td25c

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The squirrels aren't really a problem since "Frank" moved in, he's a 20 lb barn cat and absolutely hates squirrels.
I could really use " Frank's " help RZ .

Mice hit the WABCO C pull as well :( Went to move it and won't turn to the left ? First did a visual inspection in the main switch box & checked the limit switch up in the goose neck .

Ended up finding the problem under the floor deck .No continuity between the switch wire to the actuating coil . Ran a short temporary jumper to drive it up to the shop .

Control circuit bypass surgery scheduled in the morning . Will use a length of 7 wire trailer cord for the procedure .

My health insurance agent did a long pause on the phone getting the procedure OK'd .

Gave them Mister WABCO's name & serial number . Agent asked where was he born ?

Oh yeah , Peoria Illinois 1962 LOL ! :D
 

rzucker

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I could really use " Frank's " help RZ .

Mice hit the WABCO C pull as well :( Went to move it and won't turn to the left ? First did a visual inspection in the main switch box & checked the limit switch up in the goose neck .

Ended up finding the problem under the floor deck .No continuity between the switch wire to the actuating coil . Ran a short temporary jumper to drive it up to the shop .

Control circuit bypass surgery scheduled in the morning . Will use a length of 7 wire trailer cord for the procedure .

My health insurance agent did a long pause on the phone getting the procedure OK'd .

Gave them Mister WABCO's name & serial number . Agent asked where was he born ?

Oh yeah , Peoria Illinois 1962 LOL ! :D
After working with electric Wabcos for most of my life, B-70's and others... mice are a huge problem when they sit.
They do have other issues once in awhile too, had a guy with a D pull elevator machine that the elevator quit on bug me for a week once, wouldn't pay me to just drive out and fix it. He wanted to play "64 questions" every day, finally I just drove out and looked at it, he had run through a stand of poplar trees and yanked a heat switch connection on the LH elevator motor. One 14 ga butt splice fixed it. But I was too "expensive" for a service call?
 

JasonG

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I love the "I just paid 200 for a crimp connection " response.
No, you paid $5 for the crimp. The 195 was knowing where it was.
While I never say it, I dream of this;
Walk in knowing the problem, 10 minute fix.
Customer, "Well that was easy'
Me, "If it was so easy, why has it been like this for x days before you called us?"
 

rzucker

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I love the "I just paid 200 for a crimp connection " response.
No, you paid $5 for the crimp. The 195 was knowing where it was.
While I never say it, I dream of this;
Walk in knowing the problem, 10 minute fix.
Customer, "Well that was easy'
Me, "If it was so easy, why has it been like this for x days before you called us?"
Yep, he lost 5 days of revenue trying to get me to fix it over the phone, I really should have slapped him with a "consulting" fee for that too. It is kind of funny in a way... I drove in and saw the haul road between the trees and knew where to look before I got out of the truck. Oh... It cost him more than $200 for the service trip. And after that he called me out immediately if the thing even sniffled.
 

td25c

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Yep, he lost 5 days of revenue trying to get me to fix it over the phone, I really should have slapped him with a "consulting" fee for that too.
Yeah RZ , or call it and " Insulting " fee for all the time wasted over the phone .:)

It's generally simple fix on these rigs , the job is diagnosing & locating the issue .
 

Truck Shop

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Back to that mice thing, when cleaning out a mouse nest you guys always want to wear a mask and gloves. A friend of mine here lost his uncle to Hantavirus.
Was cleaning a huge nest out of a combine a few years ago and in a few days he was dead.

Truck Shop
 

td25c

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Good point Truck Shop & thanks for chiming in on the topic .

Never even heard of the condition till now .One more reason to hate rodents :mad:.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hantavirus

It's an annual thing with us on equipment and job sites dealing with mice & the mess the leave behind .

Never did care for the cheap masks with the rubber band . They never seal up good and just look goofy .


Go with a respirator mask when it doubt . https://www.amazon.com/3M-07192-Paint-Spray-Medium/dp/B0002STR22/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1495849218&sr=8-4&keywords=paint+respirator

One of the worst jobs I remember was pulling out a grain bin floor & all the floor supports and shoveling out all the bee's wings , mice crap out the door . Hot , dusty , no masks . Everybody was blowing black snot bubbles after that one . Took several barley sodas to bet us back in shape .
 

rzucker

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Back to that mice thing, when cleaning out a mouse nest you guys always want to wear a mask and gloves. A friend of mine here lost his uncle to Hantavirus.
Was cleaning a huge nest out of a combine a few years ago and in a few days he was dead.

Truck Shop

You aren't kidding about that stuff. I won't touch it without a good respirator,too many stories about it.
 

td25c

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Customer called this morning , they were doing some clean up around an old pond & stuck the Cat D7F .

Hopped in the GMC & off we went .

Got them back on the " Green side of the mountain " in about an hour . :)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZXNxoXR08w

One thing I like about the GMC is it's short wheelbase for playing around off road .

Split the boom's & rigged for two part mast pull off the port side drum . 750 walked it up out with ease :yup
 

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td25c

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750 walked it up out with ease :yup
Come to think about it ?????

It was either the 750 Holmes pulling power or the gravitational " Moon pull" from the Solar eclipse today that yanked the dozer out . LOL !:lmao
 

rzucker

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Just curious... Why didn't they try to pivot with the good track and go front or rear up the bank? Done that with a D9G a couple times.
 

td25c

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Good question RZ .

My guess would be the lower track had most the machines weight on it plus the friction of the mud against the track frame .

Upper side track look's great setting high on the dirt but little traction at that angle .

I do have to give a compliment to the operator . He said " I slid down the dam and got stuck & stopped " .

At least he stopped & did not get it in deeper .:specool
 

rzucker

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Good question RZ .

My guess would be the lower track had most the machines weight on it plus the friction of the mud against the track frame .

Upper side track look's great setting high on the dirt but little traction at that angle .

I do have to give a compliment to the operator . He said " I slid down the dam and got stuck & stopped " .

At least he stopped & did not get it in deeper .:specool
Yeah, knowing when to stop is the big thing. There's probably more than the pic shows too. I once blundered into the mud with a Wabco 333FT... Bad idea. One pass too many. Two 9G's pushing and a Big Bud with a 2" choker in front and we got her out. When the mud gets "pumpy"... go sit on the porch. LOL.
 

td25c

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That's a good point RZ .

It happens to the best of us at times .:D

This guy was kinda" shook up "over it at first . Pretty good operator , just bit off a little more than the D7F could chew in that moment .


Ended up giving him the " pep talk speech " . Go after it & don't stop for Jack chit , worse thing that will happen is we will bring the 750 Holmes back .:cowboy:)
 

td25c

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Same story here RZ .:)

Got started on one of the " pond cleanout " jobs today .

Waded in to the cattails & muck with the excavator until I got that strange feeling in my gut . " This don't feel rite " :eek:ops........ Fall back ! Retreat to firmer ground . LOL !

Still owe Dude Watson from the last winch out & don't need any more . That guy is like a Vulture looking for prey :eek.
 

rzucker

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Same story here RZ .:)

Got started on one of the " pond cleanout " jobs today .

Waded in to the cattails & muck with the excavator until I got that strange feeling in my gut . " This don't feel rite " :eek:ops........ Fall back ! Retreat to firmer ground . LOL !

Still owe Dude Watson from the last winch out & don't need any more . That guy is like a Vulture looking for prey :eek.
More than a few of my stories involve playing "Swamp Monster" with land based equipment... Never a good idea, but you gotta clean out the swamp. Ran one of those military Michigan scrapers and a 9050 Case excavator in a 4' deep rock bottom pond once to clean out silt. It really sucks when the starter in the scraper quits in the middle of the pond. I was a soggy mess that day.
 

td25c

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That's something else I think about while playing in the mud RZ .

Some sort of mechanical failure ? Blow a hose on the drive motors on the excavator while bellied down in the slop is not good .

I try to keep the area open to a truck with a welder & winch can get to me without to much trouble .

That was one reason I benched out around the pond . Causeway can come in handy when things turn for the worse .

http://www.heavytruckforums.com/showthread.php?527-Available-Manufacturing-Company&p=4046&viewfull=1#post4046

First thing I do when entering a rough place is locate the back door if we need to fall back & retreat .:laugh
 

JasonG

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I have nothing to add, except this goes great with my scotch.
Oh, I seem to remember using a drag line to get out a young feller with a stuck D8 from a retention pond.......
 
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