Newest addition: 1978 Kenworth W900A Flatbed rollback truck.

LowBoy

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Well, as it's was once said, "A fool and his money are soon parted"...

I sold a 1973 IH Transtar cabover on Saturday 9/28/13 to a happy customer that drove it home to Buffalo, NY and called me to thank me for such a good old truck in the shape it was in, and for representing it the way I did. I'm happy, he's happy.

Not 12 hours later after having a guy piling a big wad of Ben Franklins into my hand, I went 30 miles down the road and spent it again on a 1978 KW flatbed rollback that I've had my eye on for about a year now. I need one around here for all my tinkering, so this is a good fit for me. Of course, it needs what it needs; wheel seal is pouring gear oil and ruined the brakes in that wheel...exhaust off turbo needs replacing, a few hydraulic lines (winch line especially) need R&R, but overall, it's a nice truck with a nice sounding 3406 PCTA cackling Caterpillar and a 13 speed.

Will be a handy dandy truck once I straighten it all out eventually.

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C R A F T

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I drove one of those back in the mid late '80s ….exact same color, only in a BC logger format …LOL …. they were the "Cats" meow (no Pun intended ) …LOL ……. Sweeeet Rig Lowboy !! …. I'm Jealous !! …… now if we can only get u'r GD Backhoe going as easy as this Puddy-Cat ! …. Cheers Pal !
 

LowBoy

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I drove one of those back in the mid late '80s ….exact same color, only in a BC logger format …LOL …. they were the "Cats" meow (no Pun intended ) …LOL ……. Sweeeet Rig Lowboy !! …. I'm Jealous !! …… now if we can only get u'r GD Backhoe going as easy as this Puddy-Cat ! …. Cheers Pal !


Hahahaha, ain't that something? You drove one the same color and everything eh? I saw one or two of these color schemes over the years...never went crazy about the paint job, but hey, it's mine, it shines, and everything's FINE...!

Hey, good news CRAFT...I got the stinking JCB/Perkins to light up tonight off from a 5 gal. can of clean fuel on the hood, and a clear line!!!! Now at least I see she runs again. I'm gonna take that CAV filter and ventilate it with my 12 gauge shotgun this weekend. (Going to unbolt it from the motor first though, don't worry.):thumbsu

Going to put a new lift pump on, and a Cat filter head I have here to stop the pain and bleeding once and for all.

Where abouts are you in Ca. CRAFT? BC or where? I have a buddy in the "Soo"...Ontario, just over the Michigan border is why I was wondering.
 

C R A F T

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Hahahaha, ain't that something? You drove one the same color and everything eh? I saw one or two of these color schemes over the years...never went crazy about the paint job, but hey, it's mine, it shines, and everything's FINE...!

Hey, good news CRAFT...I got the stinking JCB/Perkins to light up tonight off from a 5 gal. can …………...

Where abouts are you in Ca. CRAFT? BC or where? I have a buddy in the "Soo"...Ontario, just over the Michigan border is why I was wondering.

That was a popular color scheme in different colors too ….. the same guy I drove the green one for also had a '77 w/big cam 2-400, and it was a brown one ………

As I replied to you over on HEF …The KISS principal always works the best, without getting things too complicated, kinda doo with watcha got ! …. Wish i'd be there when you ventilate this POS …… I mounted mine on a WALL OF SHAME …. LOL

Your buddy is on the other side of our country ….. We're in the REAL Western Canada, that'd be British Columbia (some provinces, Manitoba, Saskatchewan, Alberta … all say they're in western Canada ) ….. LOL … Where I live in Central BC, it's over 3250 ft elevation, our leaves on the trees are in full fall color …..

Again, i'm glad you got the Perky running again, now you just gotta work back from there ….. OBTW … my tank on the Exc. is so bad at times that the fuel drain on the bottom of the tank gets jammed, plugged with rust flakes, gotta take a coat-hanger wire and push thru the crap (from the bottom up) to un plug it …. slowly it's getting cleaner …. rust happens when the tank is not full and stored for prolonged time … the condensation is horrible, as the fuel returns into the tank hot, and when not full of fuel when it cools (as in winter) there is huge condensation ….. my Cat exc. was an ex Finning rental unit that sat in their yards for for many extended periods …. so now i'm paying the price for that. I've run my Trucks up from the coast where you can get un-cut Diesel fuel in the winter, up into -20 temps and never had the fuel Jell-up, as long as the truck is running the tanks stay warm …. I always store Diesels as full of fuel as I can.

Later Gator ! …. cheers
 

LowBoy

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That's a sweet rig! For those who have this model of truck, they're so lucky.


Thanks glenlunberg, I always liked an A model KW myself too. I was a young lad of 17 when my brother who was 21 yrs. my senior, bought a brand new 1979 W900 and a new reefer trailer, and I was an official big trucker, running coast to coast with him, learning the ropes. Reeling back the years now, I don't know whether to thank him sometimes, or cuss him, lol.
 

LowBoy

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Hey CRAFT,

I remember a guy in the late 70's with a brown/orange striped one, with an 8V92. For the time period, that truck was a morphadite compared to all the super cool classy trucks of the period with V8 Cats and KTA Cummins, etc. Looking back from this point, I sure would love to have it here now, lol.

I live solely by the KISS therory CRAFT, in everything I do on a daily basis. Being a one man army, having to figure things out on my own, from moving things around twice my weight to repairs, I like SIMPLE. This JCB is the piece I needed for years around here to help me lift stuff, move snow, etc. I'll continue to improve on it over time, building a jib for the bucket to get some extra reach when lifting things, etc., fix the swing problem...I get her fixed up eventually.

The fuel starvation crisis here must be due to a couple of things. One was self-inflicted, installing the gasket on top of the element instead of up in the head where it belongs. It's a bear to get that gasket in the groove with it mounted where it is...I had it off and upside down in my hands Sunday, and it still was a tough cookie. It kept wanting to roll or twist, creating a wrinkle so it's even worse mounted to ge it seated right. No more messing around though...it will have a Cat housing in line this weekend.

Must have been that the old dirty element was fatigued enough to let the weak lift pump push fuel through enough to keep the injector pump wet. Once I put the new, dense element in place, she no longer would push fuel...just my own hare brained take on it anyways.

I'm a firm believer in keeping fuel tanks full in winter as well, all season for that matter with the changes in temps. we have in the higher elevations. I keep on my wife all the time to keep her Jeep full, but every time I go to use it, the red low fuel light is on, GRRRRRRRRRRRRR.

This weekend I am going to dedicate to cleaning the tank out completely, and getting this JCB in shape to run without incident. (That is, after I finish removing the injector pump off a 3406B I sold to a guy...) The frost is starting to show it's ugly head in the morning's here...it's closing in on me fast!

Thanks for all the words friend..:specool
 

C R A F T

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………………….. I was an official big trucker, running coast to coast with him, learning the ropes. Reeling back the years now, I don't know whether to thank him sometimes, or cuss him, lol.

Obviously the KEY word is "WAS" ……. and I'd Cuss him ! ….. WHAT were you thinking ??? …. What was he Thinking ??? ….ohh I know I'll suck my little brother into being my private little Gopher ….. in exchange for free experience …. as he sat back and LHFAO !!!! ……

AS IF we were'nt all there at one time or another !!!! …….. LOL …… Bahahahehehehaha !!!
 

LowBoy

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Obviously the KEY word is "WAS" ……. and I'd Cuss him ! ….. WHAT were you thinking ??? …. What was he Thinking ??? ….ohh I know I'll suck my little brother into being my private little Gopher ….. in exchange for free experience …. as he sat back and LHFAO !!!! ……

AS IF we were'nt all there at one time or another !!!! …….. LOL …… Bahahahehehehaha !!!

Obviously the KEY word is "WAS" ……. and I'd Cuss him ! ….. WHAT were you thinking ??? …. What was he Thinking ??? ….ohh I know I'll suck my little brother into being my private little Gopher ….. in exchange for free experience …. as he sat back and LHFAO !!!! ……

AS IF we were'nt all there at one time or another !!!! …….. LOL …… Bahahahehehehaha !!!

You musta known my brother?????? Ba hahahahaha, that was the whole deal in a nutshell...teach the young kid how to drive in a brand new truck while having fun, get plenty of rest...just pay him for his meals. I didn't care...I was in my glory driving a brand new KW A model with a brand new Timpte reefer trailer, hauling coast to coast, heavy, fast, illegal as all get out...nothing like getting a good education outlaw style. Made me who I am today (ahemmmmm....)

The rule back then with my two older brothers was, "if a man couldn't run California from Connecticut (3000 miles+) by himself in 60 hours straight...he had sleeping sickness...") So once I was turned loose on my own, I broke that record once by myself, believe it or not, at 58 hours. You talk about trucking, these waterheads that think they're doing something nowadays driving 600 miles and resting for 10 hours wouldn't be able to stand up after a couple days of what we used to accomplish, baaaahahahahahaha. I don't know if I could do it that way today, but I'd be willing to bet, I'd get close. Wouldn't do it twice though, lol. We ran like fiends back then. My brothers hauled swinging beef out of Iowa back to Maine weekly with multiple drops starting in around Boston and ending in northern Maine, reload starch in bags and blast back to Iowa and repeat the process weekly; sometimes not stopping to sleep for 3 days (synthetically of course, ) and making money only like you read about in the 70's when fuel was almost free. Had new Peterbilts and KW's every 3-4 years, houses, cars...life was good then compared to the struggle now. Those days are looooooooong gone my friend. But, I still like to "re-enact" those days now and again once in a while...:jawdrop
 

Mitch504

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That's a sweet truck, what's the details on the rollback? I mentioned before that I have an old HD rollback, you'll find it's handy as a shirt pocket.
I used mine today to move a few things a friend bought from an auction, it makes loading a snap. I moved a 24' flatbed body, and then went back and got a huge steel rack made from 10" I-beam. Everybody else was standing around waiting for the Lull, and I just backed up and grabbed my stuff and took off.

I don't run it as a wrecker, but I have friends who have them(10k bodies on F650s to stay under CDL), and I'll occasionally go help one of them out. My 24k bed amazes them. I recovered an inverted sideways car from across a canal the other day by just running my bed out over it and rolling the car (an old Crown Vic, no lightweight) onto the tip of the bed, with half the car hanging off the back and an axle on each side. I just lifted the bed and drove forward and set it in the road. The 2 car haulers on scene said their beds would have never handled it, my old girl ignored it.
 

LowBoy

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That's a sweet truck, what's the details on the rollback? I mentioned before that I have an old HD rollback, you'll find it's handy as a shirt pocket.
I used mine today to move a few things a friend bought from an auction, it makes loading a snap. I moved a 24' flatbed body, and then went back and got a huge steel rack made from 10" I-beam. Everybody else was standing around waiting for the Lull, and I just backed up and grabbed my stuff and took off.

I don't run it as a wrecker, but I have friends who have them (10k bodies on F650s to stay under CDL), and I'll occasionally go help one of them out. My 24k bed amazes them. I recovered an inverted sideways car from across a canal the other day by just running my bed out over it and rolling the car (an old Crown Vic, no lightweight) onto the tip of the bed, with half the car hanging off the back and an axle on each side. I just lifted the bed and drove forward and set it in the road. The 2 car haulers on scene said their beds would have never handled it, my old girl ignored it.


Thanks Mitch, it's a 26' industrial rollback with a wood (oak) deck. I will be honest, I haven't looked over the truck for 10 straight minutes yet since I got it home Sunday 9-29-13. I work a crazy full time job (just for the steady income and benefits, and to keep my wife off my ***,) and it has been extremely, overwhelmingly busy for me to say the least. I don't need to work 60 hrs.+ anymore; those days are behind me. I have a lot going on for myself these days, as a Flatbed Body dealer for pickups and work trucks, and buying/selling heavy duty components and trucks as a whole on the weekends. I have to have a talk with the employers after the winter season winds down and see if they'll allow me to cut back to a 3-4 day work week to just keep the insurance active so I can go to the next level. Just nice to have a "guaranteed" cash flow, and those medical benefits are kind of handy now and again too.

The story on this truck is, I remember watching it go down the road with the original owner for years with all kinds of industrial machines and towmotors on it, then one day it showed up in a field in town with a for sale sign. I looked it over, but at the moment I wasn't ready to spend 10K for it. Shortly thereafter, a "buddy" bought it for the historical factor. He was going to remove and sell the rollback, hack the truck all up to just play with it, etc. He never did a thing to it except make a few moves for himself, all he did positively to it was change the oil and coolant, a good thing. Luckily he isn't that ambitious. I know what he paid for it, considerably less than 10K, so that was helpful to me. I sold a truck Saturday (the day before,) and immediately called him up and leaned on him a little, saying I will buy that KW in an hour and if he's not interested in my offer, then there will be another Autocar in my yard by tomorrow afternoon as I am an impulse spender. He squirmed for a couple hours, but it's sitting here now and that's all that counts. He was trying to hold out for 10K to make a killing, but there was no way he'd get it with all the little stuff it needs to get it in shape to use.

He ran it with a bad wheel seal and it's the first thing I need to address, then the exhaust off the turbo, and then the Ramsey winch hydraulic line needs to be r & r'd to use the truck. My wife's registering it today. I have to get on that truck hard the next few weekends to get it ready to use without fail.

What's unique about the way the rollback works (as you know with yours too,) is you can gain another 4-5 feet of length to haul something around 30' or so by just leaving the bed back away from the headache rack. He (last owner,) sold and hauled a bunch of roof trusses that were 32' long by doing that. I would have secured the front of the bed with a chain to be safe as he didn't....but everybody's different. That's a handy dandy feature in itself.

I cannot tell you how many times I have called people to move something, that were either too busy, too drunk, too lazy or too uninterested to help me out. Just recently as a month ago, I aquired a 20 ft. storage body that needed to be moved from it's location to here, a lousy 50 miles. I messed around with 2 guys for 2 weeks, trying to convince them it's easy access to get the body...easy to unload. That drove me crazy, ended up hiring a kid with a car carrier for $85.00/hr. that did a good job, but it cost me $250.00 for the move. I am happy to say, those days are now officially OVER, lol.

That recovery deal you just told me about was pretty neat. As you said, your truck ingored the job, as the lightweights stood there watching you work with ease. I'm thinking I will get a LOT of little odds and ends with this truck as I get more exposure. Everybody always passes here and sees my collection as I am on the main drag, so word will get around that Lowboy is up to something.....hahahahaha.
I love auctions. Last spring I'd have bought a couple items at an auction I was at had I owned this truck, but I had no way to move the things I wanted and didn't want to get invloved with begging people to do it.

Plans include a brand new front bumper, remove lettering asap, another stack (dual exhaust), put all shiny aluminum Budd wheels all the way around on it, replace every rusted utility light, add more lights, and enjoy having a classic KW rollback to go out and make a couple bucks with, and have some fun at truck shows as well. I got with the paperwork, a notebook with all the stuff the guy before this guy did to the truck, and I'm happy that is shows a lot of the major things were done already. New clutch, pressure plate, throwout bearing, springs, etc. Now all I have is all the small TLC stuff left.

I started off in 1978 driving truck in a B-61 Mack, my brother bought a brand new 1979 W900 to run coast to coast with which I did with him, so that was the second truck I drove as a young guy. I have a special place in my heart for them,(W900A KW's) always had.
 

C R A F T

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"Lowboy" ……. At the end of u'r last post you mentioned the "bling-bling" …… it make a guy feel good but most importantly "The Eyes Do The Buying" … if people see a top notch looking rig then then people will think it's a top notch company, customers like that, they'll think that their commodities are handled with great care ….. Lastly ! ….. the "DOT" ….. if it looks Legal … then it's got to be Legal !!! ….. they like seeing clean looking Rigs !!

Cheers Pal !
 

LowBoy

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Originally Posted by C R A F T
"Lowboy" ……. At the end of u'r last post you mentioned the "bling-bling" …… it make a guy feel good but most importantly "The Eyes Do The Buying" … if people see a top notch looking rig then then people will think it's a top notch company, customers like that, they'll think that their commodities are handled with great care ….. Lastly ! ….. the "DOT" ….. if it looks Legal … then it's got to be Legal !!! ….. they like seeing clean looking Rigs !!

Cheers Pal !

I am a believer in that theory by all means CRAFTY. I saw it over the years in real time. The shiny equipment owners seem to get the "good" jobs, while the lesser caring about image company doesn't seem to. Goes for most anything in business. It's a shame really, that society is based on that, but that's the way it works.

I plan on creating a nice looking rig out of this KW and I think it will prove to be cost effective in the long run. Not to mention DOT. I NEVER have any problems with them...I keep a neat and clean looking piece no matter what I'm in, and that has kept me out of trouble for many years too. The company I currently work for is the least caring of any I've ever encountered about image. One guy brags he washed his truck once in the 6 years he's been working for them...and it's obvious. It's a ghetto cruiser. Fairly newer (2006 or so) Peterbilt, completely trashed. I have a 2000 379 that I constantly get asked if it's new, because I happen to care and don't want to blend in with those every 6 year wash job guys, lol. It's all in ther individual and how he wants to be portrayed is all I can say.:beerc
 

LowBoy

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Something strange is going on with posting...I go to edit my post, and it disappears, then suddely it's duplicated. Just ingore the double post I guess, LOL.
 

C R A F T

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I've seen the same thing here ….. there are a few feature on this forum that don't quite work the same as on HEF ….. Ohh well i'm sure it'll get sorted out …cheers
 

Oxbow

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I am a believer in that theory by all means CRAFTY. I saw it over the years in real time. The shiny equipment owners seem to get the "good" jobs, while the lesser caring about image company doesn't seem to. Goes for most anything in business. It's a shame really, that society is based on that, but that's the way it works.

I plan on creating a nice looking rig out of this KW and I think it will prove to be cost effective in the long run. Not to mention DOT. I NEVER have any problems with them...I keep a neat and clean looking piece no matter what I'm in, and that has kept me out of trouble for many years too. The company I currently work for is the least caring of any I've ever encountered about image. One guy brags he washed his truck once in the 6 years he's been working for them...and it's obvious. It's a ghetto cruiser. Fairly newer (2006 or so) Peterbilt, completely trashed. I have a 2000 379 that I constantly get asked if it's new, because I happen to care and don't want to blend in with those every 6 year wash job guys, lol. It's all in ther individual and how he wants to be portrayed is all I can say.:beerc
I used to pull a refer running California/Northwest/Midwest. Along with keeping the truck neat and washed at least every couple of weeks (depending on season and weather), I found that shaving each day and wearing clean clothes (even if I had been at it for 36hrs) went a long way when going through DOT inspections. My thought being that if I didn't look like I had been driving for the last 24hours maybe they wouldn't check the log book.

I don't run over the road anymore, but I am afraid with time stamped fuel tickets and time data when going through weigh stations etc. it would not be cost effective to run that way anymore.
 

LowBoy

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I used to pull a refer running California/Northwest/Midwest. Along with keeping the truck neat and washed at least every couple of weeks (depending on season and weather), I found that shaving each day and wearing clean clothes (even if I had been at it for 36hrs) went a long way when going through DOT inspections. My thought being that if I didn't look like I had been driving for the last 24hours maybe they wouldn't check the log book.

I don't run over the road anymore, but I am afraid with time stamped fuel tickets and time data when going through weigh stations etc. it would not be cost effective to run that way anymore.


No doubt Oxbow, with all the new ways to catch you doing something wrong, it's a tough game anymore. I see a lot of guys are building/fixing up older mechanical trucks without computers, not only for the nostalgic factor, but for reliability and also for the lack of an ECM to download data to purger yourself with.

It's just inevidable, that some days things didn't go right and you need to stretch your day a little to make things work out. I heard a story on XM radio of a company that was trying out some sort of bracelet that detects when you're in the bunk, based on movement. If you move too much like get out of bed, it throws you "on duty". I will take a bullet to my forehead before I am forced to go that route just to make a living, but I'd quit first before that extreme of course.

This industry is just getting way too restricted IMHO. You can give that stuff to the sweatpants wearing, sandal slappers that I see in trucks now, but not me, I'm sorry. There's automatic transmission restrictions on CDL's now that let them "push" these grads. through the course without being able to shift a truck....and call them drivers, then they become trainers in 90 days. Makes me vomit in my mouth, this stuff.

Give me Twin Sticks, or give me death....LOL.
 

LowBoy

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Got the lettering off the doors yesterday, in between other chores. Unfortunately it took some original paint with it, but my buddy will match it back up like new when I'm ready to.

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C R A F T

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OK ! … FINE ! ….. now u've screwed up the original paint …. I wouldn't of wanted to have it with that name on the door anyways !!! ….leave well enough alone ! ……………………… SO when are YOU dropping it off at MY PLACE ????? …… lets make this a Snappy Process !!! …."K" ……. and what ever you do ……"LEAVE " the fuel filter ALONE …….. You've been known to screw those things up ….. ehhhhhhhh !!! ……. LOL …… HEHEHEH ….Bahahahhaha !!!!

OMG !!! …..some guys just don't get it …. when you want to get rid of that DA british Archaic designed filter system, there's always ONE GUY that indirectly says you are going about it all wrong ……… He must be a huge Leyland Fan ??? ….. Go Figure !!!

You've got me curious tho ??? ….. I'm gonna check what fuel filter numbers are on my 3 different Cats ….i'm positive that the 2 smaller ones being the 3208 and the excavator have the small sized canisters on them (been a while) whereas the 3406 has a longer length to it ….I also believe that the small ones are the Donaldson brand ….. Hmmmmm …..will let you know ……… would be nice if the filters were the same on this Kenworth's Cat, and the filter you're installing on the Perky … wouldn't it ??? ….

You've got u'r weekend cut out for you ….. FGS !! getterdone so you can play with this new Toy LOL ….. Cheers Man !!
 
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